it was to go hungry and cold, but the poor Indian did.
He believed that we pitied them and talked to them for thier
good; and he thanked us for it, and said he would tell it
to his people, and hoped they would mind our talk; to
which they all assented. He then said, Brothers, I have
nothing more to say. and shaking hands with us again sat down.

After gathering the foregoing facts and obser-
vations respecting the Winnebago

Indians, and not seeing
that much usefulness would result by a longer stay at
this place; we took leave of our friend Lowry and family
as well as the other white inhabitants connected with them
at the establishment, and returned to Dubuque on the Mis-
sissippi. We then took Steam Boat down the river
about Two hundred miles to Burlington; from thence we
took State and private conveyance by way of Mount
Pleasant and Salem, Iowa, to the Sacks and Fox Agency
distant about eighty miles. We reached this place
8th of Tenth month about one o clock P.M.

The Tribe were at the time assebled for the
puropse of negotiating a Treaty with our General Government

through Governor John Chambers the negotiator.

The whole Sack

& Fox nation were in the neighbor-
hood, but the men only attended the Council. Just as
we reached the council the Chiefs commenced speaking and
spoke with much animation. One of the Fox chiefs spoke
first, then a Sack, and so alternately until four had spoken,
the last being Kecookuk, thier principal chief a cele-
brated orator.

The purport of thier talk was about the
same; and resulted in an agreement to sell all their lands
in the United States for the sum of one million fifty
five Thousand Dollars, Eight hundred Thousand of which
was to be put at interest at 5 per cent, and the remain-
der to be appropriated to the payment of thier debts;
south west of the Missouri River

where they were to
remove within three years.

After the adjournment of the Council
at that time we went to the Agent's house where the Governor
put up during his stay at this place. He received us kindly
and entered into conversation very freely respecting the
condition of this Tribe of Indians--he remarked that un-
less something was done to better thier condition and
that soon; they must in a very few years all be wastid
away in consequence of the wickedness and treachery of the
whiskey sellers and other traders who are taking advan-
tage of these poor ignorant natives, by obtaining thier
money and other valuable articles, in exchange for
whiskey and other trifling commodities of no real val-
ue to the Indians. These articles, he remarked, are
frequently sold to them for ten or twenty and in some
instances for one hundred times their real cost, and in
a very short time these unprincipled traders manage to obtain the
last dollar the Indian has. And further, he said
that some of the accounts brought in against the Indians
stagger credulity; that in one instance one of these
was exhibited for settlement amounting to Sixteen Thou-
sand Dollars, which he had ascertained to have grown
out of the remnants of an old stock of goods not
worth five hundred Dollars. He remarked that
whiskey was no doubt in many instances sold to the In-
dians and charged as corn, blankets and other articles
which the licensed traders may have a right to sell
to the Indians; while it is unlawful to sell them
whiskey. He said also that the advice of the
whiskey sellers and other traders, in its influence upon
the Indians was unbounded; and that he had found
much difficulty in treating with them on that account;
as they were constantly hanging about them and advising
them against adopting such a course as would be for
thier good, cautioning them not to leave the chase,
not lay down the gun, nor the blanket--not to
have school, established amongst them; and in fine
against civilization in any way. And from what
we saw and heard, during our stay at the Council Ground,
we were led to place the most implicit confidence in
the remarks of the Governor.

While we were at the Council we met
with men of the popular class, some of whom it is known
have been long engaged in a trade with the Indians by
which they have amassed great wealth--these men used
their utmost skill to make us believe that the Indians
were a happy people; that there was no necessity
for any benevolent exertions on thier behalf, and that
they were now living very comfortably.

An Indian (say they) was made to hunt not